Come On You Irons 11:25 Thu Feb 23
Uncontrolled immigration
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It looks like the farcical dinghy situation is going to get worse as Sunak offers an amnesty to illegal immigrants from Syria, Yemen, Eritrea, Afghanistan and Libya.
All those who rock up illegally from those countries will have to do is fill out some questionnaire to be granted the right to remain.
How fucked up can you get.
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Willtell
12:03 Thu Feb 23
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Aren't those the countries that have oppressive governments or at war with someone or other? If so surely easier to treat them as genuine asylum seekers?
Best way to stop immigrants heading for UK is stop paying them universal benefits.
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ray winstone
12:12 Thu Feb 23
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“This country has not only left the European Union but on January 1 we will take back full control of our money, our borders and our laws,”
Boris Johnson, October 7, 2020.
Risible.
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12:23 Thu Feb 23
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Theresa May, Amber Rudd, Sadiq Javid, Priti Patel, Stella Braverman ( twice ) and Grant Shapps.
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Sir Alf
12:29 Thu Feb 23
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While its understandable that some people in those countries are genuinely just trying to get a better life and escape their oppressive governments and regimes, the problem is that simply speaking, resources and wealth to population size in the UK.
If wealth was more evenly distributed and there was a much higher minimum disposable income and there were more resources ( infrastructure, services ) and people are happy for that to be eroded to allow more people to live on an island the size of California, then fine but who is going to be keen on seeing the majority impacted? No one I would wager except those with the wealth to not be impacted. Oh that would be politicians then?
In most of our life times we have seen the population grow from circa 50 million to what 70+ million. Cars, traffic, health and other services stretched to the limit etc. Well yeah, there's another 20 million people and just going out nowadays, on a Sunday, is a battle through people on roads, in cafes. Suppose we need to spread out to the rural areas but with no work there it will mean remote working. Its not viable IMO.
Brexit happened in part because of the simple idea that the "UK was full". The government or PM does not seem so sure it would seem?
Oh well, as usual in human history and nature, we will fill up until catastrophe intervenes ( disease, war due to economic strife etc) to reduce the population although that will be after most of us have pegged it. Might be worth warning your kids or grandkids if we don't put a lid on rising numbers though.
Happy Thursday ! :-(
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Fo the Communist
12:36 Thu Feb 23
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I thought we all agreed on the Shamima Begum thread that undesirables shouldn't be sent back to their country of origin?
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zebthecat
12:43 Thu Feb 23
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Willtell 12:03 Thu Feb 23
Quite.
There used to be legal routes for genuine refugees from oppression and/or war but this government has made them all illegal apart from those coming from Afghanistan and Ukraine (I think there is one other country on the list).
Incompetence and poor planning by the Home Office has lead to a backlog of 160,000 asylum applications. This leaves those seaking genuine asylum stuck in limbo and unable to work.
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ray winstone
12:48 Thu Feb 23
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Fo the Communist 12:36 Thu Feb 23
Ag
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Moncurs Putting Iron
12:59 Thu Feb 23
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I understand the difference and the principle they are trying to apply but how in reality are they going to be able to confirm this information?
They don't arrive as a Ryanair queue with full documentation, hoping they do not get their bag weighed or sized.
They arrive with nothing either by tragic circumstance or by design.
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Come On You Irons
1:11 Thu Feb 23
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I just don't get what the country gets from taking in these people? They are an economic drag on resources and just fill up an already overpopulated country even further.
Johnson and Sunak bang on about 'Brexit freedoms' giving the UK the ability to only take in the 'brightest and the best' yet look around any town or city and it's filled up with the 'dumbest and the worst' type of immigrant.
No wonder the country is skint.
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Westham67
1:19 Thu Feb 23
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Al least we have our sovereignty back feels gooooooooooooood
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arsegrapes
1:29 Thu Feb 23
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The US has announced an Amnesty many times, it has been proven to just encourages more to come, although I realised long ago that is the whole purpose.
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JayeMPee
1:30 Thu Feb 23
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Once upon a time asylum seekers had to claim asylum in the first free country they entered so send the channel crossers back to France.
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Toe Rag
1:32 Thu Feb 23
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Absolutely loads of these vermin being caught by the nonce hunter groups now.
Cheers Tories.
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Bungo
1:37 Thu Feb 23
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At least with my immense income and incredibly opulent lifestyle I won't even notice the presence of these paupers.
Phew.
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Mike Oxsaw
1:56 Thu Feb 23
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Professional immigration management - can't pay, won't pay.
MP's expenses - bring a bigger trough.
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Willtell
1:57 Thu Feb 23
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Me too Bungo.
I'm so grateful to all you tax payers for taking these poor unfortunates off the streets of Europe....
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Mike Oxsaw
2:06 Thu Feb 23
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I'm more than happy to leave and make way for them - I'm compassionate like that.
Mind you, I'll be taking my wealth and spending power with me to wherever I go, so you's lot stubbornly staying will have to cough up just that bit more for the privilege of doing so.
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wansteadman
8:37 Thu Feb 23
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Nice to hear that these poor unfortunate souls that we allow to stay are all allowed to bring 5 family members in once they've been accepted
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Mad Dog
8:43 Thu Feb 23
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My issue with this, and it's easily my biggest issue, is what is so dangerous in France that they feel the need to come over in dinghys?
Money?
Oh OK then?
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BeauLarkyBuff
9:09 Thu Feb 23
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If they're valid asylum seekers why do they feel the need to bypass the system (which would surely permit them), discard all identity papers and risk the channel crossing? Would it possibly be that once ensconced in a Travelodge in The Midlands they can just disappear?
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